Over the last couple of days here at TCC , I've met a couple of ministers who've had a hard time with their churches and/or their leadership teams. The good news is: both of them are still Christian, still married, and still in ministry - although they've been scarred by their experiences. In this public context I can't say too much about them. One of them had good initiatives and ideas for growing and developing the church, and the youth ministry in particular - but kept being blocked by their leadership team. The other one was victimised by a few very vocal members of their congregation. Both left the difficult ministry contexts, but are now in different ministries with a lot more potential. This just illustrates how dependent ministry is - dependent on other people's goodwill. Unlike a secular work context, a minister can't "make" anyone do anything. We're dependent on people doing things voluntarily - just because they want to. And of ...